While they are unfortunately slavers, Ashur is trying to find a cure, and he does legitimately offer up a way to leave, through the Hole. Sure, you're more likely to die in combat, but the fact that you get freed shows that it is a real way to escape slavery.
On the flipside, Wernher and Midea just want to take over, and Wernher pulled a full deception with not telling that the cure was in fact a baby, and in fact comments on that fact and his deception because he figured if you knew, you wouldn't help.
In siding with them, I feel that the slaves have no chance, as opposed to very little chance with Ashur. There's no scientists to work on a cure with Wernher, and my head-canon would be that I could see him 'recruiting' a scientist the same way he 'recruited' us to do his dirty work.
So, much as I hated siding with Ashur and his slavers especially after I took a Fat Man to Paradise Falls and used up all of my mini-nukes There's a chance to get free by combat, there's a chance he might find a cure, and there's a chance he might re-ignite the forge of industry, and do a little good for the wasteland in the end.
And a little chance is far better than no chance at all. However, considering that the slavery operation in the Pitt is causing massive human suffering and deaths on a large scale all around the place up to and including the Capital Wasteland hundreds of miles away, and all of this is really done mainly for the personal benefit of a slaver warlord Ashur and his gang of raiders, my Lone Wanderer usually ends up siding with the slaves and killing all of the hostile slavers and raiders..
IMHO if civilization is going to be rebuilt ever, this will not happen with all of these raiders and slavers running around, they need to be dealt with swiftly and decisively.
There are no extra resources available to take care of a large violent prisoner population for rehabilitation, and the raiders usually do not surrender anyhow, so the only valid solution is to keep on killing all of the slavers and raiders untill they stop raiding and slaving in the region. The cure is really just a secondary priority here, the orphan baby needs a new home so Midea gets to be the foster mom. Workers could be paid with production shares and trade caravans would bring in supplies in exchange for the steel products.
Post by Laclongquan » Thu May 27, pm What the hell? It's very obvious that we are going with the slaves. I know you dont care for slaves but should anyone have to eat Trog slop?
This is a soulful question here. Slave revolt is a thing. Stand on the side of raiders and you stave that off for maybe another month. Who the hell would want to work their ass off to eat slop made of trogs?
So standing on raider is a futile thing. I bet they never had slop once. Midea I have no opinion about but that man is, I dont know, typical Wasteland strongman chief. The point is, Ashur sit on the throne made of blood and lives of slaves so down he go. Wenher Smenher, if not him then other can replace him.
I dont know why people even hesitate on this very basic, point-giving, question. Sarah being a mother? Please, as if we need to or have to kill her anyway. Ashur being a good father? Baby getting test and everything? Let me remind you guys of one basic rule of slave revolt: bosses die, down to babe in craddle. Survive is a great thing, innit.
Slave society dont work without slaver or manager? Please, this is no ancient slavery in agricultural or even near modern age. This is a group of hard workers who had to work a steel mill complex to make bullet case and possibly other complex things as well. Think of Pittburg workers in the They damn well can work. If you think otherwise, some blue coverall muscled old men are going to beat you to death with their walkers.
Risewild wrote: Ashur doesn't like using slaves, and also doesn't like the word "slave". He is only using them because it is the only way to build a future for The Pitt.
He uses slaves because no one else would want to work in The Pitt because of all the radiation sickness. His plan is to build a industrial community that will benefit mankind for the future. He says that once the cure is found using his daughter Marie to do it , he won't need to force people to work anymore and will free all the slaves.
After that he will continue using the industrial complex in The Pitt to pave the road for the benefit of mankind. A community that will be fair for everyone, leader and workers where everyone will be prosperous and work on their own free will.
It will be a prosperous place that can make use of the pre-war machinery to help mankind's future. Basically, Ashur's doing a bad thing now to lead to a good thing for everyone.
Exactly like "the end justifies the means". He's not proud of it, he doesn't even like it, but he's doing it to make the wasteland a better place for everyone. Now Wernher says he wants to save the slaves, but what he does and says shows that he actually just want to sit in Ashur's throne. He doesn't mind killing an innocent baby if that makes that ascension to power faster.
After we depose Ashur and Wernher takes control, everyone is still a slave and working exactly the same as when they were under Ashur's rule. No one is free, no one leaves The Pitt, nothing changes. Basically, Wernher's just a power hungry bastard that makes a revolt just so he can control The Pitt. If you should feel bad for taking one side or another is all up to you though.
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Fallout 3 The Pitt Walkthrough. Ashur seems to genuinely wish to free the slaves as soon as a cure is found. Having to chose between 1: Side with Ashur and hope things improve under the slave lord or 2: Side with Wernher and liberate the slaves,only to have the Pitt possibly descend into chaos as well as condemning a now orphaned Marie to a life of misery with the … 8 Give Wernher the baby.
For the purposes of this guide we will be siding with Ashur. Once you kill him, return to Ashur to claim your reward. Wernher will appear and wants you to follow him through the tunnel into the Pitt. In the Brotherhood's ruling council decided to send a contingent of soldiers to the East Coast, with three important objectives.
This is my idea of what has gone on since then. By the time of Fallout 3, however, the Brotherhood is too entrenched in their fight with Super Mutants to be able to help out and most likely wouldn't be able to do much to help out the Pitt for either Wehrner or Ashur.
Fallout 3 ; The Pitt Walkthrough If you want to remain friendly with him, that's perfectly fine. Work in the Steelyard- Gather up all 10 ingots for the job requirement. However, before you can give him an answer, he'll be called away the slaves will start revolting , and you'll be left on your own.
Of course, knowing how much you guys dig the Maryland folks' work on the long-awaited and much loved third installment in the Fallout series, we jumped at the chance. You can gain negative karma if you side with Ashur through killing the rebel slaves who attack you, but it is possible to run past the hostile slaves and keep your karma intact. After my conversation is done with Ashur he gets stuck in a loop saying "dont let me keep you" and he keeps repeating this over and over.
Though Wernher gave his word that Marie would be taken cared off courtesy of Midea who would continue Ashur's wife Sandra Kundanika's research into developing a cure for the plague that infected most, if not all, of the Pitt's denizens, Marcus had left the Pitt feeling guilty as hell. The Raider leader, Ashur, has a cure that can help the people of The Pitt with their mutation but hasn't distributed it among the people.
Quest Objectives [] Meeting Ashur []. When you talk to Midea 3 , she'll tell you that she has a plan to get you into Ashur's the slaver leader's palace, but that for the time being you'll need to "blend in" and "look busy.
Although no holotape items exist for these logs, they are fully voiced and their transcripts can be found in the dialogue for the AudioHolotapes quest in the game's files. Leather Rebel 8. Richard, he thought, had to find purpose in stopping Wernher and thereby saving the Pitt.
He manipulates the player into taking the mission in Pittsburgh to free the slaves, while he personally seeks vengeance and control of the Pittsbugh. The Shelton Delacroix logs are a series of five holotapes that were cut from Fallout 3. Tribal power armor is a unique set of Td power armor found in The Pitt.
Thanks to Fallout3Nexus for the a one-stop-shop resource for authors and players. Deal with the slave, then head inside and confront Wernher. Fallout 3 The hand cart to travel to The Pitt. He will end this conversation by asking you to talk to his wife Sandra, because she'll have more info for you concerning their plans. This earns a meeting with the Pitt's leader, Lord Ashur, a former Brotherhood soldier left for dead during the Scourge. Perhaps the saddest raider encounter in any of the games, players can find a few Norwegian raiders in Fallout 4.
Wernher has a plan to free the slaves and asks for your help. His quest for more help funds the game's most evil villain who has destroyed towns In the quest for slaves. Werhner is a slave who escapes from The Pitt and travels to the Capital Wasteland in search of someone to help his people in Fallout 3. He sends a distress signal across the Wasteland which is picked up by you.
Wernher emotionally manipulates the player and leads them to believe that they serve … Fallout 3 The Pitt Walkthrough. First, to scour the ruins of Washington, D.
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